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== Male/Female Mage on the main page == | == Male/Female Mage on the main page == |
Revision as of 22:10, 1 August 2015
2009 Issues have been placed here 2010-2011 Issues have been placed here
Contents
- 1 Male/Female Mage on the main page
- 2 Subclass separated skills
- 3 Continuation/Alteration of the Wiki
- 4 Should DFO fully reopen...
- 5 Thumbnails
- 6 DFO Beta and the Wiki
- 7 Changing "EX" headers and categories
- 8 Alpha Test...?
- 9 Adding what TAB skills each subclass can use on their pages
- 10 How do we handle differences?
Male/Female Mage on the main page
The Male Mage links are apart from the Female Mage, which isn't like the others. Now that I uploaded the Male Mage's icon, can anyone who's able to mod the main page please put them together like the others? Copain 01:21, 9 January 2012 (PST)
- Alright. It's fixed.--Dfoplayer 10:46, 9 January 2012 (PST)
Subclass separated skills
With the subclass skills being combined into just [common], should we combine the existing skills together under a [common] tab or keep them as they are.
- Hmm...could you be a bit more clearer? Are you talking about grouping the general skills and general EX skills into one page? --Dfoplayer 14:04, 8 June 2012 (PDT)
- I mean like general skills that were separated by classes such as BBQ on a gunner would be under [launcher] tab but in the game is now under [common] tab, and was just wondering if we should put them under common here or keep it how it is.
- Now I'm starting to get what you mean. I think you are part of the 5,000 who was invited to PTS, so congratulations. The system you are talking about ("but in the game is now under [common] tab") isn't out yet. Anyways, it depends. If a ranger or another subclass has access to BBQ, then we could change BBQ to [common]. However, if only launcher has access to it, then lets leave it as it is.--Dfoplayer 14:19, 8 June 2012 (PDT)
- Yeah i was, thanks. I'm pretty sure that's how it's put out for all the main classes but i'll double check when the servers back up, also is there a better way to talk than using this?--Jgillotti13 14:35, 8 June 2012 (PDT)
- Now I'm starting to get what you mean. I think you are part of the 5,000 who was invited to PTS, so congratulations. The system you are talking about ("but in the game is now under [common] tab") isn't out yet. Anyways, it depends. If a ranger or another subclass has access to BBQ, then we could change BBQ to [common]. However, if only launcher has access to it, then lets leave it as it is.--Dfoplayer 14:19, 8 June 2012 (PDT)
- I mean like general skills that were separated by classes such as BBQ on a gunner would be under [launcher] tab but in the game is now under [common] tab, and was just wondering if we should put them under common here or keep it how it is.
Continuation/Alteration of the Wiki
Even though DFO is being shut down, I think we should still keep the Wiki up and running, as well as possibly change it to be an English Wiki for CDnF, since that's where everyone seems to be going. That would include updating everything to where it's all at in CDnF, possibly adding translations to things to assist in-game navigation. Obviously it would make more sense to do this once DFO is actually gone, but maybe some people could get started by creating a second Wiki, then transfer everything? I have yet to see an English CDnF Wiki, and I'm sure others would appreciate it as well. Zsashas (talk) 09:12, 18 May 2013 (PDT)
Should DFO fully reopen...
What's gonna happen to the patch notes? Mikaya (talk) 11:49, 15 May 2014 (PDT)
- How do we know its "Season 2, Act 6 Patch.?" Maybe we could create a big header saying dfo reboot on patch notes?--Dfoplayer (talk) 09:49, 16 May 2014 (PDT)
- That's what the image said when you start up DFO while it's loading Mikaya (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2014 (PDT)
- What should the context be in terms of time? The events end in KST Mikaya (talk) 21:58, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
- Probably. In Mabinogi Wiki, you can mouse over PST and see the different times. We should look into that template.--Dfoplayer (talk) 06:58, 21 May 2014 (PDT)
- Apparently, DFO's parser is not up to date and can't get the mouseover times box to work correctly. --Dfoplayer (talk) 08:34, 21 May 2014 (PDT)
- I thought the admin gave the wiki away to someone and deleted this site. But it'll be nice to continue and get updated extensions. Tea (talk) 10:40, 21 May 2014 (PDT)
- What should the context be in terms of time? The events end in KST Mikaya (talk) 21:58, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
- That's what the image said when you start up DFO while it's loading Mikaya (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2014 (PDT)
Thumbnails
Seems like all the picture thumbnails are dead. Tea (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- Such as? I just checked Antwer Canyon's and other's dungeons. The pictures seems to load fine.--Dfoplayer (talk) 11:51, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- The pictures in Antwer Canyon aren't thumbnails. All the pictures in NPCs besides a few potheads are missing. Tea (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- My browser seems to load the images from NPCs, NPCs map, and Category:Character_Images just fine...--Dfoplayer (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- I'm with Tea on this and I can't see them they come up as broken images but viewing the actual size is just fine. Mikaya (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- Interesting. Does it look like this?--Dfoplayer (talk) 07:22, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- It looks like this. Looks the same on my phone. Tea (talk) 08:46, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- I think it might be my internet brower's cache? I'm not sure what's causing it, nor if we know anyone else has the problem :c Mikaya (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- That's odd...IE and Firefox show up just fine. It's just chrome for me that has this issue...wonder what's up with that? Mikaya (talk) 10:07, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- It looks like this. Looks the same on my phone. Tea (talk) 08:46, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- Interesting. Does it look like this?--Dfoplayer (talk) 07:22, 24 May 2014 (PDT)
- I'm with Tea on this and I can't see them they come up as broken images but viewing the actual size is just fine. Mikaya (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- My browser seems to load the images from NPCs, NPCs map, and Category:Character_Images just fine...--Dfoplayer (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
- The pictures in Antwer Canyon aren't thumbnails. All the pictures in NPCs besides a few potheads are missing. Tea (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2014 (PDT)
DFO Beta and the Wiki
Do we have people still on board for updating this wiki come March? I would like to start getting data ready from KDNF to be able to verify, adjust and add to the wiki once it opens. As it stands, I am gathering data for 1-54 and 70+ questlines (except for dialogue as it will not be a direct translation from KDNF, I'm sure) - post-NB skill changes to the proper articles, and videos and pages for new skills and classes. Has anyone been in contact with the wiki owner, either? There was no follow up from the earlier topic. LuminantAegis (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2014 (PST)
- I don't actually know if there are any editors. I am in college since last year and haven't been able to play games much. I have no information concerning the site owner. Feel free to add anything to this wiki. --Dfoplayer (talk) 17:46, 16 November 2014 (PST)
- That doesn't bode well. I'll try to contact someone, in that case. I used to heavily contribute to a wiki on a different server, but that wiki seems to have up and disappeared without notice. Call it paranoia. LuminantAegis (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2014 (PST)
- How do we want to handle new information pre-march then? Edit it into the wiki and tag it as upcoming content?
- Most likey, yes. Although I don't know how accurate your pre-march source is. Neople changes the skill data every so often, so at some point, I gave up on posting skill attack percentages.--Dfoplayer (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2014 (PST)
- "Go into live kDNF/cDNF (since they have the latest major balance patch to my knowledge, but I'll definitely verify that), start plugging numbers/data, change them when we find out that we're not patched to current." Yeah, they change a bit and they'll need to be redone in March, but there's still a lot to be done regardless, skills or otherwise. I'm willing to be on top of that. LuminantAegis (talk) 13:57, 2 December 2014 (PST)
- Most likey, yes. Although I don't know how accurate your pre-march source is. Neople changes the skill data every so often, so at some point, I gave up on posting skill attack percentages.--Dfoplayer (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2014 (PST)
- How do we want to handle new information pre-march then? Edit it into the wiki and tag it as upcoming content?
- That doesn't bode well. I'll try to contact someone, in that case. I used to heavily contribute to a wiki on a different server, but that wiki seems to have up and disappeared without notice. Call it paranoia. LuminantAegis (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2014 (PST)
Changing "EX" headers and categories
The proper term for the upgrade skills is "TP Skills" regardless of the "EX" on their icon, as referenced in the New Balance 3 patch when Creator and DK got their TP skills as shown here. The level 65 and 70 "EX" labelled skills no longer have the "EX" by their icon (and some have totally new icons) and are unlocked upon awakening as full-fledged skills, an example of the level 65 Blade Master skill Charge Burst: was changed from the old File:ChargeBuster.gif. These skills should be in the same category as Awakening Skills, just like how 2nd Awakened characters get an addition 3 skills to go with their 2nd Awakening Active. LuminantAegis (talk) 21:02, 17 January 2015 (PST)
- I see. Currently, the old EX skils are under "EX skills" category. Also, some have "(subclass) EX skills" category, such as Shining_Ice_Fence. We would need a replace text extension. --Dfoplayer (talk) 21:10, 17 January 2015 (PST)
- All the skills need to be updated anyways, I'll just do it as I go LuminantAegis (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2015 (PST)
- Alright. If I have some free time, I'll start changing the old ones as well as deleting cancel skils. How about EX icons? I take it we are gonna update them as well?--Dfoplayer (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2015 (PST)
- Yeah. It's only the active skill icons that changed though so it's not a big deal. LuminantAegis (talk) 16:37, 18 January 2015 (PST)
- I see you added NavskillsCreator. The old classes don't have a NavSkill. Are we gonna make them too?--Dfoplayer (talk) 17:11, 18 January 2015 (PST)
- Yes, I create the navbar after I've "completed" the class because of dropped / created skills from balance patches. LuminantAegis (talk) 00:31, 19 January 2015 (PST)
- I see you added NavskillsCreator. The old classes don't have a NavSkill. Are we gonna make them too?--Dfoplayer (talk) 17:11, 18 January 2015 (PST)
- Yeah. It's only the active skill icons that changed though so it's not a big deal. LuminantAegis (talk) 16:37, 18 January 2015 (PST)
- Alright. If I have some free time, I'll start changing the old ones as well as deleting cancel skils. How about EX icons? I take it we are gonna update them as well?--Dfoplayer (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2015 (PST)
- All the skills need to be updated anyways, I'll just do it as I go LuminantAegis (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2015 (PST)
Alpha Test...?
The header should read "The Dungeon Fighter Online Beta Test (Part 1) will be released on [March 24th.]
Adding what TAB skills each subclass can use on their pages
It's was surprisingly challenging to find this info via Googling. Therefore I'd like to request that we add them to the subclass pages. Here are most of them: http://redd.it/31in79
- Are you talking about the Volunteer System?--Dfoplayer (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- Yes. We also need a page explaining what the Volunteer system is. Same thing with Mercenaries.
- Yes, we should have those systems. Feel free to add anything you find on them. I have not reached lv50 yet, and I don't read overseas updates. Here, I started Volunteer System for you. If you have never edited a wiki before, you can start by reading How to get started and my talk page section Skill Tables??? --Dfoplayer (talk) 12:59, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- Hey can I jump in here? I believe that I can enlighten on this subject. Try linking to this link: DfCentral. It was present in the reddit link. This link is actually accurate to supporters. From what I have witnessed, the Volunteer system only allows the user to use Cube skills from level 35+ from their Supporters. Also the skill's base level is the same and the cooldown is slightly longer than the original. The Mana cost is reduced to about slightly more than half the original cost. As the TAB quote says under the selected skill: "The Reinforcement's skill/items affect your options and Attack Strength while you play in dungeons." Summons like the Female Mechanic's Air Bomb Mech: Gale Force function as normal, and travel with you throughout the dungeon. In order to have a Supporter, the character on your account must be Lv 50+ and must have achieved their first job advancement. Characters like my Lv 50 Thief cannot be summoned... When the character is summoned, if they are interrupted during casting time, the skill is cancelled and goes on cooldown.
- Also this has to be noted, when you have a character reaches Lv 70+ you unlock the Mercenaries Tab in the Arad Explorer Club window. I don't have any characters at Lv 70, but my friend does. He says that it enables your character to do runs in dungeons automatically while you go offline and does not consume fatigue, but in exchange the character becomes disabled for the set period. I believe that he said it grants EXP, which is irrelevant to Lv 70 characters, but that EXP builds up to create 1000k EXP potions which are tradable to other characters in the same account.
- Of all things however, I believe that there needs to be a page on the Arad Explorer Club or something related to it. According to the description it states: "Arad Explorer Club increases according to the number of characters Level 40 or above. Arad Explorer Club Level affects additional benefits available for your explorer.
- Here's a list of the Benefits:
- Lv 1 Abnova Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +10
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 2 Meltdown Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +30
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 3 Castaway Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +50
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 4 Meltdown Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +70
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 5 Iced Wall of Resignation Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +90
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 6 Antwer Canyon Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +110
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 7 Oceanic Express Explorer:
- Grants STR/VIT/INT/SPR +125
- Resulting EXP bonus +10% (Not applicable to the max level characters)
- Lv 1 Abnova Explorer:
- Sorry for writing so much, Dfoplayer. --Altair (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- From what I understand, there are three new systems, Volunteer, Mercenary, and Arad Explorer? Or is it Arad Explorer Club with Volunteer and Mercenary? Cause that would mean one page, Arad Explorer, split into two, which would be easier and doesn't have to use extra wiki pages. --Dfoplayer (talk) 21:55, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- You are correct. We just need the Arad Explorer Club page and on that page we can explain both systems. Also, it's NOT always cube skills or level 35 skills up. Aka Spitfire's Freeze Grenade, Necromancer's Soul lure and Crusader's Flash sphere.
- Correction: Sorry, I misheard my friend. He said that by reaching Lv 70, you gain access to Mercenary Runs in either Antwer Canyon or Oceanic Express. This enables your character to run dungeons automatically without burning fatigue and remains in town, but your character cannot go into dungeons while on a Mercenary Run. These runs DO NOT grant gold or exp but you get Black Meteors, which are traded for Boxes or Magic Pots from Seria or Pink Items from Zeldine, and Demon Invitations, which unlock Hell Mode. Apparently these runs can span between choices of 2 hr, 6 hr, 1 day, 7 day, and 14 days. I quote from him, he says, "If you don't do a run for at least one hour, you don't get jack$h1t" since you can cancel the runs at any time. Oh yeah, here's a link from kDnF for more information: KDnF Nexon. You can get a pretty good understanding by using translation in Chrome. I hope this helps. --Altair (talk) 02:19, 6 April 2015 (PDT)
- You are correct. We just need the Arad Explorer Club page and on that page we can explain both systems. Also, it's NOT always cube skills or level 35 skills up. Aka Spitfire's Freeze Grenade, Necromancer's Soul lure and Crusader's Flash sphere.
- From what I understand, there are three new systems, Volunteer, Mercenary, and Arad Explorer? Or is it Arad Explorer Club with Volunteer and Mercenary? Cause that would mean one page, Arad Explorer, split into two, which would be easier and doesn't have to use extra wiki pages. --Dfoplayer (talk) 21:55, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- Yes, we should have those systems. Feel free to add anything you find on them. I have not reached lv50 yet, and I don't read overseas updates. Here, I started Volunteer System for you. If you have never edited a wiki before, you can start by reading How to get started and my talk page section Skill Tables??? --Dfoplayer (talk) 12:59, 5 April 2015 (PDT)
- Yes. We also need a page explaining what the Volunteer system is. Same thing with Mercenaries.
How do we handle differences?
So. Twin Gun Blade is currently a skill for Female Ranger, and is likely to be one for a good year or so before her second awakening rolls out. Yet the Wiki page has the current Korean information of Female Ranger in that she has the twin gun blades right away and has some special skills for them, which aren't in our DFOG version. How do we plan on handling that? Because just not having Twin Gun Blade info seems a bit...eh... Copain (talk) 12:29, 8 April 2015 (PDT)
- Either put two tables in the same page or make a separate page for the female skill. --ShadowLink (talk) 01:26, 20 April 2015 (PDT)