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Skill Row Troubles

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Running into some issues with the template. I was having issues earlier with Template:SkillTblLeft and Template:SkillTblRight but fixed them after a lot of testing :|. Blakdoxaduo (talk) 19:34, 28 March 2015 (PDT)

- I think that anything more than class=wikitable is probably unnecessary, and we should transition to be such. Everspace (talk) 19:47, 28 March 2015 (PDT)

Ok I'll just create div containers for the specific tables (skills with gender differences). I just figured it would be a lot easier to have the skills on one page. Blakdoxaduo (talk) 21:24, 28 March 2015 (PDT)

Template:AtSchool

I use the template. As for level of usefulness, low. It could be deleted. --Dfoplayer (talk) 00:20, 5 April 2015 (PDT)

I'm fine with a general usage "I'm not here" template. I've copied the current one to Template:UserAway --Everspace (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2015 (PDT)

Data Templates

Is it possible to have the template have an edit link that links directly to template? There is no edit link in Ink He'etako, except the top right, which edits the whole page, not Data Template. --Dfoplayer (talk) 08:50, 9 April 2015 (PDT)

I didn't personally make those, but I can add one similar to the SkillData ones I'm working on. --FMageIcon.png Everspace (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2015 (PDT)
I just attempted to convert another skill into data template. I tried to use the current icon file name, Hodor.gif but the template doesn't take it. Template:SkillData Hired Summon: Panzer Hodor. Also, is there a reason why you used html tag for skillgrowth instead of copy and paste old wikitable from skill page? --Dfoplayer (talk) 22:48, 11 April 2015 (PDT)
I fixed the file name problem. Still, I am curious why copy and paste old wikitable into skillgrowth does not work. --Dfoplayer (talk) 12:16, 12 April 2015 (PDT)
EDIT: I found another file name problem. Templates Icon Link and Skill Link. The problem is mainly the skill title does not have a the same skill name file, like File:NightHollow.gif is for Black Hole.--Dfoplayer (talk) 12:27, 12 April 2015 (PDT)
  • Skill data and WikiTables: I tried doing it with a regular table before, but it causes the data to get confused. It was also hellish to edit due to needing to use the {!} template. I was also reworking the previous Needle Throw table anyway (number changes among other things) so I thought I could do everything all at once.
  • Skill Icons: I also had tried allowing the SkillData to handle skill icons and linking them, but this caused a template loop which is bad. I think that we should move the icons instead to be the name of the skill that they are attached to. This is especially true for things like File:NenSpirit.png which is actually the icon for Overstrain, but you would never know from the name. And like items, I think skills should mirror each other.
--FMageIcon.png Everspace (talk) 18:37, 12 April 2015 (PDT)
I was able to fix the Template:FormatSkill Page and Template:FormatSkill Data ‎so that if the user specifies Icon= the template will use those. Otherwise, it will default to <name of skill>.png. --Dfoplayer (talk) 18:50, 12 April 2015 (PDT)
The intention was to remove those, if the icons are named wrong they should be corrected and not patched over. If they are not aligned they should be fixed. --FMageIcon.png Everspace (talk) 18:52, 12 April 2015 (PDT)

Using SkillTableHeader

Might be something wrong with using the wiki table class because the borders are gone. :| Shield Uppercut - Blakdoxaduo (talk) 22:41, 21 April 2015 (PDT)

Apparently, the template requires
 {| {{SkillTableHeader}} 
and not
{| 
|- {{SkillTableHeader}}
Because of this, Bgblue does not work when you have |- Bgblue, unless we change SkillTableHeader to include it. --Dfoplayer (talk) 22:49, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
Thanks! I was thinking I might have forgotten something. Been a little bit since I've been on here. - Blakdoxaduo (talk) 22:53, 21 April 2015 (PDT)
Please don't modify it unless it's absolutely crucial. I would like all the skill tables to be unified in appearance and controlled from a master CSS (or at least a template!), and this was to get rid of different appearances and people inlining everything. The {{MasterRow}} or whatever it is sill works like that though. If you expand the templates, it makes more sense as to why this happens. --FMageIcon.png Everspace (talk) 13:02, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
Yes. For consistency reasons, I attempted to add blue to the tableheader using a new css, bluetable. However, while it fixed the skills, other pages that required tableheader became all blue. I was thinking of making a new template, SkillTableHeader2 with border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="background-color: #aaaaaa;" or class=bluetable. --Dfoplayer (talk) 13:07, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
I like the approach of class=skilltable more than anything. I don't understand why you want to set border, cell-padding or spacing, which are all very old, and no longer supported in HTML5. --FMageIcon.png Everspace (talk) 13:12, 22 April 2015 (PDT)

Wiki markup for tables

Is there a reason why we can not insert wiki tables into a template? I noticed it would not paste in your FormatSkill Page, and now I can't paste a table into the Template:tabs. [wqsedsa wants to create tabs for PvE and PvP skill growth. The template:tabs works, just can not paste a skill table. --Dfoplayer (talk) 21:52, 22 April 2015 (PDT)