User talk:Gardios

Template:Equipment list

I really like your Template:Equipment list since you can list out all equipment with certain attributes, like skills. Is it possible that in the skill page, we could create a url, with the end as a parameter so that we can generate a page with just the equipment related to the skill. Otherwise, we will need a page for every skill listed and have the template generate the list, like Skills that do not use Template:SkillPage. --Dfoplayer (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2015 (PDT)

If I'm understanding correctly... I don't think that's possible? MediaWiki doesn't support user parameters in the URL for pages as far as I know. You can create a link to the semantic search result by setting limit to 0:

List of equipment that satisfy the search criteria.

...but as you can see, it kinda bugs out due to the way the template retrieves the skill bonus data. Why not just have the list on the page itself?

That said, it'll probably be a while until it's actually usable, anyway. It requires us to make a new page for every weapon after all, and before people do that I'd really like to get the other templates done and discuss them with the community... which I don't really know how to do yet. I guess a thread on DFONexus could work since I'm a member there anyway? Gardios (talk) 16:09, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

You can. The first one to start templating is Everspace and once a template is used across the whole wiki, Everspace wants to make sure that "More care and effort should be made to editing" templates. Everspace is both on Reddit and DFONexus. Another Template user is Dfmchfhf. I do not know if Dfm is on DFONexus or Reddit. --Dfoplayer (talk) 16:45, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

How?

Also, I'll be honest I don't understand why you brought those users up and what that has to do with the previous conversation, lol. Gardios (talk) 16:54, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

I was trying to point out that those two have more mediawiki experience than most but seems like I wasn't clear. lol. Anyways, i suppose its fine if you use DFONexus for template ideas, just make sure not many editors change it. I feel like Everspace has that idea of "Don't change anything since this is used on over 100 pages" and I was trying to fix SkillPage. --Dfoplayer (talk) 17:09, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

Oh, I see haha. Well, I wasn't going to touch any existing templates anyway because yeah, I don't want to fuck them up. When I was talking about discussing templates, I just meant the ones I was working on (which are mainly SMW ones). I was going to talk to Everspace about SkillPage eventually regarding the potential use of Equipment list on SkillPage, but like I said, it's not ready anytime soon anyway so no need to hurry. Gardios (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

Question: Image Uploads

Hi. Sorry for the noob question, but I was wondering if you could tell me how to get the pictures people upload for the skill icons. Do you just screenshot your game and crop it out, or is there a method people use to access the game files directly and get them? [If you couldn't tell] I'm new to this and I just found your page when looking at the recently uploaded images and thought it'd be a good place to ask. SirKerfluffles

Welcome to the DFO world wiki. We usually just take the old skill icons and save it to our computer. We then use an image editor, like Microsoft paint or Paint.net and save the icon as a png and re upload with the correct name. A good guide is this one. If we do not have an old image, then you are correct, we can either take a screenshot or get it from the game files. I believe most of us prefer game files since it is better quality. However there a couple thousand images and its pretty tough to go through. I would send a message to AradEditGuy since he has been uploading equipment icons.--Dfoplayer (talk) 11:03, 8 June 2015 (PDT)

Hello!

I want to thank you for all the work you're doing with the semantic wiki stuff and introducing it to the wiki. I think it is a great addition and will benefit immensely when we go to cross-reference stuff.

HOWEVER

I have some concerns about your current approach.

Currently you are specifying a lot of stuff over and over again, and it makes reading what you've done very hard since it's very dense. In addition it's nigh impossible for someone to edit something without using an external editor, or to make contributions.

Compare how User:Everspace/SemanticTomfoolery/Equipment_Infobox has been set up with how your Template:Equipment_infobox has been set up. It's a lot shorter, more concise, and easier to understand (and potentially doesn't need to be changed when other stuff changes).

I would ask you to take a look to using the various plugins that we have acquired for arrays, looping, and CSS, and move away from the base wiki table syntax into HTML table stuff. If you would like assistance, I would be happy to help.

-- Everspace (talk)

I'm actually already in the process of changing that using a fairly similar approach to yours. As for HTML tables, I can do that, I have to change quite a few pages related to inline queries anyway. Since we have a CSS extension though switching over to definition lists with wiki formatting for the infobox templates should be much simpler.

Gardios (talk)

Just to follow up on this, after cleaning up the templates I've refrained from moving over to HTML syntax for tables since it wouldn't have helped making the templates easier to read. I did however add more comments which should help.

Gardios (talk)

Hello,

I would suggest rather than having the chance to royally bjork up a page, consider making experiment pages like I have at User:Everspace/SemanticTomfoolery

This includes: http://wiki.dfo-world.com/view/Nilvas_Gracia#drop0, among all the other random pages you've "laid claim to". This methodology doesn't make any sense for a shared resource like a wiki where everyone can edit almost anything.

Thanks.

-- Everspace (talk)

I've made the test pages on the actual wiki specifically because interaction is limited with pages in namespaces. User:Gardios/Test_Scythe for example should list User:Gardios/Test_Monster as a drop, but it doesn't. That's why I've "claimed" pages that didn't exist before. I did the shop test on Simona because what the hell, it already has the correct information anyway and I didn't suspect the page to break like *that*, but turns out I was mistaken.

Gardios (talk)

The ask query for that exact item works like a charm, I imagine the template isn't working as intended.

-- Everspace (talk)

Ah, you're right, {{PAGENAME}} doesn't include the namespace...

Gardios (talk)