Talk:Main Page

Pros and Cons?

I'm thinking we should add a pros and cons sections to each of the classes/subclasses. Anyone that can think of some should go ahead and put them on there. --Agentknife 19:33, 20 September 2009

I agree completely, I'll actually help out with this if I can. I'm not too knowledgable about the game yet though, so it may take some time. D: --Hunter9009 23:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, great, i'll go ahead and think some up and make a Pros and Cons list in discussion on the classes to add some ideas for. -- Agentknife 19:53, 23 September 2009

Nice work on them so far, mage is most developed currently, priest I think needs to be worked on more. --Shadofrak 21:25, 11 October 2009

Forgot about fighter which didin't even have pros and cons untill I put it there about 30 seconds ago, not sure how accurate my info was either, but its a start. Shadofrak 21:55

A small thing that bother me

The gunner link is under the picture compared to the others, whose link is next to the picture. It's the only one that's like that so it would look better if someone could edit it's fixed. --Doomreaper33 02:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. ^^ --Lite 20:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. I think it's because your screen resolution is low. The only way to can fix it is by making the font smaller or put it sideways. --Tea 04:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

List of things to do

Basic contents that need to be completed. Sorted in an order where the top takes priority. Pretty much the same format as Mabinogi World Wiki. --Uchocobo 02:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

• NPCs

Currently thinking of new way to organize and implement the new ways of displaying NPC rather than continuing the one in Mabinogi World Wiki

• Skills

Ignore Theif, Female Gunner for now. Would be wise to follow the skill desc on one client for now and fix it as the game gets released.

Categorizing fixed/percentage magical and physical damages, categorizing skills that consume cube fragments, categorizing skills to each respective level range.

• Areas

Upto Behemoth, including Tower of Death. Doubt that anyone will be fast enough to go beyond Behemoth within 5 days of the game's release.

• Monsters

Upto Behemoth.

• Game System/Mechanics

Endless pages of text to translate. Would be very helpful if anyone fluent in Korean/Japanese/Chinese can edit the necessary documents.

Possible contents to enrich the wiki

• Adding different version names?
• Trivia. Already have collection of old Korean client files and background stories to add to various pages.
• List of Merchandises?
• Information on god forsaken Arad Senki Animation

I have some information on the Arad Senki Animation. It is called Slap-Up Party. It's about a slayer partying up with some people. It's really funny and it was released before the game was. The anime is a little different than the game. The gunner, who's name a Cabensis, is more like a Ranger/Mechanic/Launcher. He does the awakening move for ranger, has a mechanical robot called Cabencho, and once used the M-3 Flamethrower. Each character's personality is different from each other's. I think this was a really good and funny anime. Just look it up on google and you can find it anywhere. The Arad-Senki Official Website should have it for download---Regards, TechnicalDeath 05:17, 20 Oct.ober 2009 (UTC)

DFO Lore

There are some interesting lore information on the DFO Source forums about the apostles and the setting and what not. http://www.dfosource.com/forum/general-discussion/2075-dfo-world-setting-9-apostles.html and http://www.dfosource.com/forum/general-discussion/2119-dfo-world-setting-fortunesinger-battles-pandemonium.html

Certainly interesting info to include, however anyone who has access to official Korean Artbook for DnF has better and accurate plot/setting information regarding the game. Some of them I see on that page has been mistranslated or missed few facts... --Uchocobo 03:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Name Suggestion

It should be NeoPle. --Bumble 14:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. --Uchocobo 16:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Site full of info

http://dnfwiki.machine-code.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Done25 22:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Outdated. I would prefer either Japanese or Korean wiki. --Uchocobo 16:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It does have very little but it has most of the skills listed and they are all in English. Google translator can only do so much. Done25 04:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Most of the contents we uploaded so far are translated by contributor him/herself, not with online web translator. =(

(Admin team members are bilingual) For the accuracy of information, I highly recommend to use foreign sources for now. This doesn't necessary mean you can't contribute if you are not bilingual, you can rather help us to edit the existing pages and keep the consistency. --Uchocobo 13:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

We Have Competition! O.O

Looks like the other wiki somewhat ahead with formatting. We should copy their formating later on (*just like mabiguru+mabinogiworld* lol), and overtake them lol. Their wiki is more pleasant to view imo. http://wiki.dfosource.com --Hengsheng120 14:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Since the beginning of Mabinogi World Wiki, our admin team's motto always have been work hard on our contents. Personally I don't find it amusing having content to copy paste without a single effort involved. Plus, don't drag the wiki into this whole "competition" business. There isn't one to begin with, and their admin's ultimate goal and our admin's goal completely differ. --Uchocobo 16:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you explain the different goals of the two wikis? I'm confused. If there are common goals, I think that we should all work together to make a single wiki with quality information. I'm looking forward to contribute to both wikis and do not know how to make them unique. Otherwise, "competition" comes naturally over time (and eventually, one of the wikis will become less used/abandoned). --Hengsheng120 18:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Frankly speaking, I'm open to the idea of how all of us should be working together on a single wiki. Unfortunately, the truth wasn't that pleasant once we started out with Mabinogi World Wiki first. Most of the collaboration requests from other admins we've received were nothing more than "We want your content, hand it over so we can profit." Even the idea of having NA fansite union was neglected due to the other admins disliking it being non-profit and rejection of their collaboration offer. In our side's definition, content of wiki doesn't belong to admins/moderators. It is solely property of the community itself, as every contributors put their effort in constructing it. Since we are also involving contents from foreign fansites, it is crucial to keep our transparency of being non-profit web community. None of the admins earned single cent thus far. In fact, I've been spending my own pocket money and time since I treat wiki activity as a hobby. With this in mind, the admin of the site you mentioned has no intention to abide by this conduct... at least last time I encountered him due to unpleasant incident. You can search old threads in the forums if you are curious. And yes, if there are committed group of individuals working on DFO wiki that has better potential with right set of mind, I'm even willing to "hand over" the contents for work together to construct a wiki with high quality information for all players. For related discussion for this, let's take it to the forums next time instead. =/ --Uchocobo 02:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Most of their format looks like it was taken from mabiguru. I'm not a fan of their format. -Tea 19:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Their website looks bad(no offense). They don't really have an organized thing. If they are just going to let their "monster" thing sit there with about 3 or 4 things, and then more are added, its going to get bad(still, no offense). I don't like their formatting. I viewed the classes page, and there was a lot of incomplete info. Their quest page looks messy too. In my opinion, I think this is a better page.---Regards, TechnicalDeath 05:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Skill Planner

There are several skill planners on the web including one on the Korean Nexon site. Aradsociety has just put up their translated skill planner as well. I believe that these are valuable resources that can be linked through this wiki. I haven't come up with a way to include a link that would be consistent and non-intrusive to the rest of the wiki.

Monster Page Formatting

I think it is much needed that we need to format the monster pages into categories similar to that of the mabi wiki. I have started pages for some of the monsters, but they need to be grouped into one page. I would do this myself but I somewhat lack time and knowledge of wiki formatting, so anyone who could do this would have my thanks. Shadofrak 21:40, 11 October 2009

We need a template first. -Tea 22:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

...here's a question that should be answered first tho, what do people need to know about the monsters? Off the top of my head

• Image
• Name
• Location
• Drops
• HP
• Damage
• Attack type (how many hits? long range or close range? Piercing? Blunt? Fire?)
• Aggro? (is there even a measurable aggro rate in this game?)
• Notes

And it's compounded by the issue of whether or not any of these stats change depending on the dungeon level. Ouch. Perhaps we shouldn't be thinking of these in Mabi wiki terms yet? Unless someone has access to the game's data files... -- Ladywinter 05:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Strategy Section

It would be nice to have a strategy or combo section of the wiki. Divide it similarly to that of the mabi wiki, but we need to include categorization for each class and subclass. Shadofrak

Someone already started it @ Strategies. He hasn't edited it for a while though. -Tea 22:35, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I have looked at this page and it seems to be more of a basic combat page. I have made a different page on my user page as an example of what I plan to recreate it as. If there are too many objections, I will cease production of the page. Shadofrak Oct 13

Since there has been no objections for a 3-day period, I shall start implementing the new strategies page. I have a backup file of the old page for just-in-case. Shadofrak Oct 16

Hey can you put the strategy link in the front page under the game system? I noticed ppl don't know its there cause they only look at the front page and it'll make it easy for beginners to pick up techniques on the game.--Dungeoning 19:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

speaking of beginners, I think an perhaps an "game introduction" page might be useful 'cause I was greatly confused at first -- Ladywinter 05:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Item Shop

Should there be a link to the Item Shop section on the front page? It is under the Game System category after all. HellMuT 2:22, 12 October 2009

Auth given, freely edit as you please. --Uchocobo 03:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

We should have a quest section

I think we should have a quest section because I'm like level 21 and my friends are new to this game and they don't know where to get quest. If there is a quest section here, I think it will make it a lot easier for people to find quest and have more fun on DFO instead of being clueless about what to do and just leave the game. ---Regards, TechnicalDeath 02:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on a quest list pages. Only epic quest 1-7 is up at the moment and the template is not done, but I'll put links up in the side navbar. -Tea 03:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I can help add episode like 8 because I'm somewhere there. Also, I can help add the launcher job change quest because I am a launcher myself.---Regards, TechnicalDeath 03:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

The job change quests are on the class pages. A separate page that goes in more detail is possible. -Tea 03:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I know that, and I could send you some info. I was thinking the job change quest was somewhere else, not in the class description page. I can make a simple website, but I cannot use table or anything like that.---Regards, TechnicalDeath 03:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit : You could link the job change quest pages to another page that divides the classes. Have the classes link to blank pages, and I will ask my friends to add info. I got friends that all have at least 1 sub-class. Includes: Asura, Launcher, Battle Mage, Grappler, and I think there's more.---Regards, TechnicalDeath 04:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

More Edit: I put up a temporary quest section only containing 2 quests. I will add more quests all week. Could you make a template for that too and include the quest details that are there?---Regards, TechnicalDeath 22:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Should we have an item section too?

Sometimes we just need items....and their descriptions. An item section could work pretty well, and would help people find all the stuff they want and list their price (NPC bought). Maybe it could show the location of where to buy the item. It could even include an average damage count(the weapon damages are not fixed).---Regards, TechnicalDeath 03:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

There is already a weapon category, but it is very underdeveloped and only has weapons of lv25 and higher last time i checked it. I haven't seen a consumables or armor section yet. shadofrak Oct 20

I'll be adding consumables the next couple of days, started with HP potions and will work my way through. -- Ladywinter 15:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Most Visited Page

Is there a way to add a Popular Content page or Most Visited page like the WoW wiki has? It'd be interesting to see what people are coming here for and whatnot -- HellMuT

If you click on the number of pages on the frontpage, it displays the most ivisited page/popular pages. I'm not sure if WoW wiki has customized page for it, can you link it? --Uchocobo 03:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Map

Can we have Category:Towns linked to] under Wiki Navagation in Game System? -- Ladywinter 18:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Auth given, freely edit it as you please. --Uchocobo 03:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

oh wow, thanks! -- Ladywinter 04:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)